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Apr

Every Man For Himself

every man for himself

1. An expression of panic, that everyone should forget about comradeship and save themselves.

You might recall a post I wrote a little while ago about customer care. In that post I talked about how customer care was a rare breed and people who put their customers’ needs first would do well: this is true today more than ever!

I see endless examples day in day out of people who operate from a mindset that says “What’s the best outcome for me and how can I get it in the shortest possible time with the least amount of energy invested.”

There’s not really a problem with wanting the best outcome for yourself is there? And surely there is no issue with trying to achieve those outcomes quickly without expending more time and energy than you have to. But if there are other people involved shouldn’t you be considering them and how they’ll be affected in your quest for your desired outcome too? Thinking along the lines of “What’s the best outcome for me and my customers and how can we get it in the shortest possible time with the least amount of energy invested.”

I’m not sure what it is that has led to what appears to be an ‘every man for himself’ approach to life for many people. It’s as though we are in a panic and that our very survival has gotten so threatened that we are now willing to trample over our own neighbour to get what we want.

Do you give even a fleeting consideration to what your actions might mean to someone else who is involved in your transaction, your group or whatever it is you’re doing to achieve a set outcome?

I wonder if the ‘buy now pay later’ addiction of today is also reflected in how we view our customers? Take their money today, deal with their dissatisfaction later?

Is it similar to smoking a pack a day and dealing with the emphysema later. Overeating fatty foods today and dealing with the high cholesterol later. Drinking too much today and dealing with kidney disease later. Spending too much today and dealing with the debt later.

Treat people with indifference and deal with their wrath later.

I’ve seen both site sellers and buyers, Internet marketers and other sales people who only seem to really care about what’s happening on their side of the fence. Their consideration for the other person or people involved seems almost close to zero in so many things they do. They work out how they can hype up their sales pitch the most, how they can inflate the value of what they’re selling beyond what they even consider it to be worth, they look for ways to create frenzies and so on.

Never fear, I’m not against marketing, I have done plenty of it myself. What I’m on about though has two components to it. One is a personal preference toward helping people. No not just “And in my spare time I like to read books, ride horses and help people.” No I mean truly help people! Put myself in their shoes. Guess what they might be thinking and ensure their own thoughts don’t convince them of something that’s not real. Think about them and what is best for them and their particular situation.

Someone displayed this type of consideration recently and although I expected it from them I was completely at their mercy to ‘do the right thing by me.’ I asked them whether their service/type of advertising would likely lead to me getting exposure through to my target customer. The answer was no, probably not, and then an explanation as to why. I knew there were plenty of ways they could have ‘sold me’ on their product that costs several hundred dollars but they didn’t. I wish they had something I did need because that’s the type of person I want to do business with, the one who truly has my needs in mind.

This person understands that strategically it’s not going to make sense to convince me to advertise with them and then in the long run not get the desired results of which I might tell others and come back and complain to them. This is the second component to why I prefer to market a certain way, because it’s good for business when you consider things strategically over the long term. I could have handed over hundreds of dollars for advertising that wouldn’t suit me and given that company a short term boost in revenue but what are the long term affects to their brand for not ensuring their client’s needs meet what they can deliver on. It’s not as easy to convey everything in a sales letter online as it is to talk one on one with a customer, but it pays to try and send the right message to help you attract those customers who are a good fit for what you’re offering.

Will you reduce the amount of dollars you receive up front by turning off some customers who are not a good match to your offer? Of course you will which is why some people prefer to use sneaky tactics, make ‘innocent mistakes’ with how they portray what they’re selling, omit details that would be a clear signal to some that the product is not a good fit for them and generally stir up a lot of emotions and so on to get people foaming at the mouth for what they have on offer. I’m all for hungry customers, what I’m hoping you can realise though is that if you make me hungry for your secret menu of goodies you better make sure it’s vegetarian that you’re serving up because that’s the only food I eat. You can’t know everyone’s preferences but you can try hard to make clear what you’re offering and to who it might suit best.

If you’re serious about an online business, and even offline too actually, then you are crazy if you think you can get away with poor service or if you think you can come out unscathed if you mislead, inflate, hype up and pretty much not deliver on your promises to your customers.

Have you thought about the customer who actually might live around the corner from you who could have their AdSense account banned because of a questionable website you might sell them? Do you stop to think about anyone but yourself when calculating the multiple you might be able to get for a site you’re thinking of selling if you can just get the traffic and earnings to spike? Would you take a moment to think that a spike in traffic and earnings can lead to the site coming to Google’s attention? Are you thinking about the fact that the site could get deindexed and the associated AdSense account banned should a human review occur where it’s discovered that the scraped content is all that’s on offer and nothing much more.

When you decide you need $80K do you even think twice about promoting a $2000 product as an affiliate or are you just really excited and focused on the calculation you can make on what your list converts at, what date you can expect the affiliate commissions to be paid and how much interest you’ll save by rushing down to the bank and paying off a big chunk of your mortgage? Or are you having a nagging feeling in the back of your mind that says 99.9% of your subscribers don’t actually need what you’re about to send them to? Do you even take the time to do the due diligence on the person you’re promoting or do you just take them on face value because their face is pretty? Do you think you’re followers don’t see what you’re doing?

One thing I’ve learned about myself, about you and about most other people is that we’re not completely blind to what’s going on.

We’re not oblivious to the fact that someone said I should watch a sales video as it was full of great free ‘content’ when in fact there was not one piece of free ‘content’ in it, it was all pitch and they wasted my time. Did that marketer truly think I didn’t realise this was a referral for a new kid on the block and that they clearly had not watched the video themselves or they would have known there was no free ‘content’? It was obvious that they really didn’t have my best interests at heart at all otherwise they wouldn’t have sent me to that piece of rubbish – twice. They must have thought I was stupid because they sent me to the same offer a few days later only this time with a very lucrative bonus. I now finally gave up on this marketer who I’d somewhat grown to like but now realise they don’t care a flying banana about their subscribers and I don’t trust them anymore.

If you want to be someone like that, someone who employs short term tactics for quick rewards, whether that be for $500 or $80,000 then go right ahead, you will most likely win in the short term, even the long term if you can generate enough cash to pay for everything you need and then keep a low profile so you don’t get pelted with rotten eggs (oh what fun). If you don’t want to be looking over your shoulder, feeling sick at the site of your inbox because of nasty emails from irate customers, see your name up in lights for all the wrong reasons and generally end up being miserable, then try putting yourself in your customer’s shoes.

dreamstime_9110529Try considering that you’re dealing with a person, a person who is no different to you, a person who wants to achieve things, a person who is parting with hard earned cash in the hope to reaching a goal. You never know, you might win them for life and actually build a sustainable business for the long term. Are there people with bad intentions? Of course there are but in the main, people are good. You might be able to help others realise that it’s not about being on one side of the fence or belonging to this type of group or that particular tribe. Whether we’re the buyer the seller, the coach or the student or the avenue that brings those things together, we are all just people and we have the power to help each other achieve by working with each other not against each other.

Michelle Adams
One Tribe Marketing

What are your thoughts on why we should take our customers into consideration more?

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15 Comments for this entry

RicNo Gravatar (8 comments)
April 10th, 2010 on 9:24 pm

Michelle, I love the message.

Sometimes the word conscience is replaced with the word marketing. You know, the two emotions that have ruled going way back are greed and fear. Either influences reasonable people to take irrational actions. Things they would never dream they could do.

The beauty of this business is you have a choice, the person who makes a lot of money using deceptive practices thinks they won, but short term gains like this can lead to long term suffering.

Is it worth it to trade your integrity for that?

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

It’s wonderful indeed that we have a choice Ric. :)

There are the truly deceptive acts and then there is the unconscious act of just sliding into the role of ‘seller’. It’s easy to forget that there are people involved so hopefully we can all start to ‘consider’ others more each day.

YLNo Gravatar (1 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 7:37 am

What a wonderful post! I am only a new follower of your blog but you now have a loyal fan.

I truly agree with your sentiment that in the main, people are good. In fact, my experience using websites such as Scriptlance have shown me that there are many fantastic, diligent people out there. Sure, there might be a couple of bad apples, but overall my faith in human beings having decency and honesty has increased.

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

Thanks for taking the time to comment YL. :)

I’m so glad to hear you’ve come across some good people at Sriptlance and it’s helped increase your faith.

There are serious problems in this world of course and I’m the last person likely to be seen wearing rose coloured glasses,but there is so much good we can create in our day to day activities instead of creating mini wars between ourselves.
I’m no saint, very much a work in progress actually, and it’s great fun sharing the journey with people like you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

KiranNo Gravatar (9 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 8:29 am

Fantastic post Michelle.

I love how you have explained this. I have always believed that every action, has a corresponding reaction. Whether you do something positive or negative, good or bad.

I apply this in not only business, but my whole life. It’s the way to live a more successful and fulfilling life.

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

Thanks Kiran. :)

I need to do a better job of applying this to my whole life. It’s easy to think that an ‘instant reaction’ IS the final outcome/result, but it can be days, weeks, months or even years before the actual consequences finally come to surface can’t it.

Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

AdeNo Gravatar (3 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 8:37 am

Hello,

That’s a spot-on message. Totally relevant to the times. Everyone seems to be after their own share of the market, either by pitching you a totally ‘dead’ product or just sending you from webpage to webpage, in an effort to make you sign up for something.

I had a similar experience in the last week, where I bought a product from a marketer I respect(ed), and everyday, like clockwork, he sends me pitches for other products totally unrelated to what I bought from him. No follow-up emails, no reply to my emails/questions, just product pitches of the ‘NEXT HOT THING’.

It’s really annoying and anything that has his name on it gets a NO-NO from me from now on.

Your post on customer care made me realize there are still ethical marketers out there. This one simply buttresses that point.

Keep doing the good stuff. Lovely karma, blowing your way.

Take care.

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

Ade it is like that isn’t it…like there is a need to greedily grab at a chunk of the market before it’s all gobbled up!

Ugh, those emails that just keep flowing are annoying. It’s a shame that many of the actual products are ‘good’ (if you need them!) but the actual marketing undermines them and the creator in a lot of cases. What is so hard about spelling out what the product is exactly and who it really is for?! I know that could reduce sales but surely in the first instance it’s better to keep me as a subscriber than to peeve me and I tell ten others? The numbers might stack up though because there are so many newbies that can be fed into the funnel when people like us unsubscribe.

I’m sure you have plenty of good karma coming your way too Ade. :) Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

AlNo Gravatar (1 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 10:25 am

Well I had similar thoughts when the JV arrangements I had promised to me were all “forgotten”.

Clearly these guys were running their business the way they wanted and were all seemingly “nice” people you’d be happy to spend time with.

I doubt that online business is worse in this regard than offline business.

We are only just crawling out of the world’s biggest crisis since the 1930s – and it was caused by greed in the professional bankers and traders couples with indifference to how it played out at “street level”.

All we can do if we have other ideas and morals is do what we can to warn beginners of the possible perils and put forward sound business models they can follow.

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

Thanks for your comments Al.

Your reference to the indifference to how it played out at “street level” is a good way of putting it.

ForestNo Gravatar (30 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 10:25 am

Hey Michelle, I have had many encounters with the people you speak off here…. It’s one of the main reasons I jumped ship on the whole blogging in the MMO niche and why I only deal with my niche sites now.

I make far less money than many of these marketers but I am happy that my customers like me and I like them. Feeling good about myself is just as good pay as cash for me.

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

Thanks for stopping by Forest.

Good to hear you like your customers and they like you! :)

We can’t please everybody all of the time and even when you go out of your way for some customers they won’t ever be happy, but the majority will appreciate your efforts and that is a good feeling indeed. :)

Looks like your Frugal site is doing well! :)

Peggy BaronNo Gravatar (2 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 12:40 pm

Thanks Michelle!

I have experienced marketers from both sides of the coin and the ones who have my best interests at heart are the ones I will continue to buy from and follow.

I try to put myself in the customer’s shoes and put out quality products. I like to sleep well at night. :) And like you, I also like to help people.

In a way, that’s your USP Michelle.

Cheers,
Peggy

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

Right on Peggy. There are many people in a variety of markets who do care and actively go out of their way to do the right thing and like you, I’ll continue to follow them and buy what they have on offer when I need it.

I know you genuinely care about your customers and yes, your products are quality, I’ve bought some of them. ;)

simply stephenNo Gravatar (22 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 2:15 pm

Michelle…I’m on board with Forest’s sentiments. The MMO has a high concentration of people that just don’t care and I have no desire to follow those niches or marketers.

I know there is a better way…for instance, I’ve been delaying full force email opt-in marketing because I think it is a recipe for the very things you are talking about – time wasting, sales and limited added value. There are many exceptions, like you, for instance but…lasting relationship focused value is rare.

I recently sent a big name marketer an email as to why I unsubscribed…it was feedback. Do you think they responded? No. That proves the concern and focus to me. They are about one thing – the bottom line for them and not for me. Now, I am like an elephant – I never forget, and when my exposure is greater, my chance of promoting them is limited. They are lucky I’m not spiteful, it’s not becoming to openly ostracize people.

It takes patience, dedication, skill and many other traits to create something that is remarkable and worth promoting. Perhaps less people should try to make money online…it would be nice to see the quality of days gone by over the quantity of recent times.

I attribute part of what you are talking about to confusion from being overwhelmed with info and stimulation. Everyone needs a quick fix…just look at cell phones and social media for the immediacy factor and you will quickly understand the root of our problems. Fortunately, the pragmatic side of me sees that a bit of realism is needed too.

Encouraging grassroots changes and practicing what you preach are paramount to make positive changes. I think you do that well and are an ambassador for many to follow. We could use more “Michelle Adam’s” in the world.

Thanks for sharing, because your example makes other people consider the changes they can make to create a better blueprint for all of us.

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

I agree there is a concentration of people who don’t care, I think that can be said of almost any market. Insurance, car sales, real estate, lawyers and on it goes.

I can’t imagine you Stephen forgetting that it’s a relationship if you were using email marketing to get you message out… but then stranger things have happened. lol.

I’d go as far as saying that an email newsletter from you around the core messages you have at heart would have a significant positive impact.

I can’t agree that less people should try to make money online. It’s an avenue that could release some people from real financial trouble and or from the grip of this tick tock world we’re caught up in or to simply put food on the table or pay for swimming lessons for their children. When we get a sniff of the possibilities of making money online, that is when we need to remember to do the right thing by people instead of racing toward the penthouse and yacht not looking back to see what we’ve left in our wake.

I’m very much a work in progress and I’m enjoying learning and sharing with people like you and others here. Thanks so much for your thoughtful comments Stephen.

simply stephenNo Gravatar (22 comments) Reply:

Michelle…as always a very insightful retort.

In short, I understand your thoughts on the relationship of email marketing…and see the benefits. However, very few of the lists I have subscribed to offer much more than stimulation and extra work to read. The relationship is a one way street. Some, however are excellent lists. This is the exception.

Okay, I wasn’t trying to say that people shouldn’t try to market online. But rather, just like any profession that standards where higher. For instance can you imagine if all Doctors self trained and gave themselves a degree…it would create danger and uncertainty when getting treatment. Same rule applies.

As with everything my thoughts are shared to improve the quality and look at what we can do to make things better…sometimes looking back gives us that benchmark. Desperation and lack of expertise sometimes dilutes the level of customer service and quality of goods for everyone.

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

Ah, your reference to doctors self training pushed the point home well. I see your point clearly now. :)

That lack of expertise mixed with desperation is quite the molotov cocktail. I’m pondering that side of things more so now.

Thanks for your intelligent contribution Stephen, I always look forward to hearing your views.

PaulNo Gravatar (6 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 3:11 pm

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Your post should be required reading for those who think “Customer Satisfaction” should take a back seat to their own Marketing needs.

I have read countless emails, ebooks, and hyped up copywriting that only suggests “What’s in it for me”.

It is getting harder and harder to find genuine good content that is targeted to the newbie customer.

Paul

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

It is hard for newbies, the smorgasbord of ways to make money online can be overwhelming. Thankfully there are a lot of good blogs where people can follow along, download reports and get weekly newsletters to help them learn, and all for free.

jerrypNo Gravatar (1 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 3:38 pm

Michelle,

I am so glad you made this post. You are one of the good guys in IM. I just cancelled my membership in a list of a certain “good ole boy” that I’ve respected from the day I joined his list.

I have to say though that the constant barrage of high priced offers has resulted in burnout and a lack of trust on my part. A $1000 site flipping course promoted to a list founded on people who were originally interested in learning IM on the cheap just doesn’t seem right.

I am a believer in karma and know that you will have great success in the long run. Thank you.

Jerry

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

Thanks Jerry.

I know what you mean about burn out and lack of trust especially when it comes to the “good ole boys.”

I think it’s been said enough around the web that the gurus have pushed many of us too far but us little guys can fall into the trap too just on a much smaller scale! I’ve seen people completely disregard who they might be selling something to and only focus on themselves. Whether that be a $500 site they’re selling or ten articles they’ve agreed to write.

It’s like I mentioned in another comment, we seem to forget about the welfare of the customer when we slip into the role of the seller. It’s conditioned I suppose but we can hopefully unlearn it and just try to sell someone something that they need at a reasonable rate of exchange without tricks and so on.

AnneNo Gravatar (1 comments)
April 12th, 2010 on 4:31 pm

I agree with you Michelle but the biggest problem is that people blame marketing for this. The core of marketing is to discover what your customer wants and then provide it to them.

I highly doubt any customer wants to be treated like dirt. Additionally, from a financial point of view it’s cheaper to keep a customer than to find a new one. Unfortunately, many people who claim they are marketers have never really learned the core concepts of marketing and then give it a bad name. I find it very sad.

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments) Reply:

I get where you’re coming from Anne.

With lists in the hundreds of thousands for some marketers, I’d say they’ve lost sight of who in that subscriber base wants what. It wouldn’t be too hard to work it out and segment it though and take care of each group’s interests with genuine thought out strategies for their needs.

Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment.

ClareNo Gravatar (2 comments)
April 14th, 2010 on 9:29 pm

“every man for himself” Hmmm, it does often seem that that is the prevailing life philosophy. But as you and others have said here, the vast majority of people are genuinely good people. Tired, overwhelmed, frustrated, harried, hurried and on and on. Thus often forgetful, not necessarily deliberately, of basic courtesy.

In business – basic courtesy is customer care and vice versa.

For folks new, and maybe even some of the ‘oldies’ out there, to online business we tend to overextend. In creating an online business we often end up creating a thankless job. And unfortunately some things, like courtesy and care, slide. We forget, if we ever truly knew and understood, the value of your statement below. “We’ is key.

“What’s the best outcome for me and my customers and how can we get it in the shortest possible time with the least amount of energy invested.”

Instead, we are so busy juggling multiple balls and sharp knives – so afraid to drop anything – even more afraid to pass a knife to someone else – etc, etc. that we become focused almost solely on ourselves. Hence, every man for himself.

Not an excuse for when it happens but a possible reason.

That is why blogs and comments such as you share are so valuable. They give us a light poke in the butt or a gentle slap to the face that says “wake up, look at the damage you are doing to yourself and others; there is a better way.”

It reminds us that sometimes our reasons must be re-evaluated and quite likely our business methods changed for the better.

Thanks for all you offer.

Please keep sharing, educating, and even poking! It is often the best way for folks to learn, to grow, to improve and to get and be well – in business and in life.

MichelleNo Gravatar (349 comments)
April 15th, 2010 on 3:13 am

You summed it up well Clare. :) I agree, that often we are just forgetful as opposed to deliberately trying to scam someone.

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts.

materialstitoNo Gravatar (2 comments)
April 20th, 2010 on 8:30 am

It’s like karma concept…thank you for your blog, its excellent.

Toronto moversNo Gravatar (1 comments)
May 4th, 2010 on 11:44 pm

It’ll be very hard to provide for every particular user. Thats the sad truth. Many services nowadays will offer features to only those who pay more instead of the public. I think there is a growing trend of more “altruistic” businesses. Just look at the way comments are handled on multiple blogs such as yourself. You offer follow links to us just as long as we add content to your site, and for that I am happy.