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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.michelle-adams.com/flipping-untangled.html/comment-page-1#comment-1048</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stef I source my images from Dreamstime and always purchase an appropriate license for the particular use I have in mind for them. 

Yes you will need to either change the stylesheet for the images or just edit them manually in the WordPress html editor for each post. 

I used Adobe to convert the ebook to PDF.

@Warren Yes the site would still retain the links but if the seller has those articles within their account they could change the links to point to a different site. I would never do that to my buyers but they only have the word of the seller to rely on. 

Peggy’s idea is great, I agree. :)

@Kiran It’s great that you included the 10 articles, as I’ve said though; the buyer has to trust that you’ll leave the links in tact. 

Selling sites that are established is definitely a great path to head down. :)

@Clinton Thanks for stopping by and leaving your feedback, it means a lot to me especially coming from you. :)

@Peggy Thanks for your kind comments.

@Forest Thanks for your feedback, I always love to hear from you. :) Yep, revenue getting sites are popular. 

@Donnie Good point about finding your profitable cut off: The market is quite changeable though so the cut off point needs to be flexible. 

@Lloyd Pinto Unfortunately I would say that you having to ‘sell’ the idea of the buyer purchasing the plugin could be a little detrimental but it’s not a deal breaker. The other side of the coin though is that someone like me would be very pleased to see that you’re being honest and not on-selling the plugin illegally. Just be honest and you’ll attract honest buyers. 

@Lizzie Thanks for your feedback. Selling web property can be very profitable, yes. I can manage $40 an hour net profit on average for a fully customised niche blog. 

@Stef Not all web hosts will ‘happily’ move sites for you on a regular basis but it’s worth a try I guess. I would suggest outsourcing site moves over relying on a webhost though. 

@neeo Thanks for your feedback. I stripped the link from your comment as it wasn’t relevant to the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stef I source my images from Dreamstime and always purchase an appropriate license for the particular use I have in mind for them. </p>
<p>Yes you will need to either change the stylesheet for the images or just edit them manually in the WordPress html editor for each post. </p>
<p>I used Adobe to convert the ebook to PDF.</p>
<p>@Warren Yes the site would still retain the links but if the seller has those articles within their account they could change the links to point to a different site. I would never do that to my buyers but they only have the word of the seller to rely on. </p>
<p>Peggy’s idea is great, I agree. <img src='http://www.michelle-adams.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Kiran It’s great that you included the 10 articles, as I’ve said though; the buyer has to trust that you’ll leave the links in tact. </p>
<p>Selling sites that are established is definitely a great path to head down. <img src='http://www.michelle-adams.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Clinton Thanks for stopping by and leaving your feedback, it means a lot to me especially coming from you. <img src='http://www.michelle-adams.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Peggy Thanks for your kind comments.</p>
<p>@Forest Thanks for your feedback, I always love to hear from you. <img src='http://www.michelle-adams.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Yep, revenue getting sites are popular. </p>
<p>@Donnie Good point about finding your profitable cut off: The market is quite changeable though so the cut off point needs to be flexible. </p>
<p>@Lloyd Pinto Unfortunately I would say that you having to ‘sell’ the idea of the buyer purchasing the plugin could be a little detrimental but it’s not a deal breaker. The other side of the coin though is that someone like me would be very pleased to see that you’re being honest and not on-selling the plugin illegally. Just be honest and you’ll attract honest buyers. </p>
<p>@Lizzie Thanks for your feedback. Selling web property can be very profitable, yes. I can manage $40 an hour net profit on average for a fully customised niche blog. </p>
<p>@Stef Not all web hosts will ‘happily’ move sites for you on a regular basis but it’s worth a try I guess. I would suggest outsourcing site moves over relying on a webhost though. </p>
<p>@neeo Thanks for your feedback. I stripped the link from your comment as it wasn’t relevant to the post.</p>
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		<title>By: neeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>neeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simple love and admire all the contents whatever you have provided me on this article. And for that I 

really want to thank you.


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neeo



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simple love and admire all the contents whatever you have provided me on this article. And for that I </p>
<p>really want to thank you.</p>
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<p>neeo</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzie</title>
		<link>http://www.michelle-adams.com/flipping-untangled.html/comment-page-1#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stef! thanks for the good sound advice.. i might give it a shot as the first blog i made. could be my guinea pig.. hey  New Zealand! 
my son is on his way for 4-5 months in set to work on organic farms...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stef! thanks for the good sound advice.. i might give it a shot as the first blog i made. could be my guinea pig.. hey  New Zealand!<br />
my son is on his way for 4-5 months in set to work on organic farms&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stef</title>
		<link>http://www.michelle-adams.com/flipping-untangled.html/comment-page-1#comment-1035</link>
		<dc:creator>stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lizzie

Don&#039;t get &quot;frozen&quot; by the &quot;tech&quot; stuff: you do drive a car or take an airplane without knowing all the techie stuff behind it, do you?

Same with the flipping: the &quot;tech&quot; stuff involved in changing the sites from one webhost to another should be the work of the webhost, like flying the plane is the work of the pilot.

Is there a substantial profit... If I need to make a pilates site like Michelle, it would take me maybe 2 days, without being sure the site looks as good as Michelle&#039;s. But again, it took a lot of time to learn to drive a car. Same with flipping, experience makes the master or will show you that it is not as profitable for you (yet) than it is for Michelle. 

I find getting some experience on the digitalpoint forum where you don&#039;t need to pay a listing or selling fee like on flippa, gives you the &quot;playground&quot; without spending money up front to get a feel about things.

If you never flipped before, then flipping a site is as difficult as flipping a sofa (I assume you never flipped a sofa :-) )

At the end of the day: if you have tried, you will learn to find your profitable cutoff like Donnie says above. And when you find likewise flippers, you can ask and learn from them.

Again: don&#039;t let the techie part freeze you. The rewarding part is finding something somebody else finds valuable enough for your investment to have a good return that you find profitable enough for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lizzie</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get &#8220;frozen&#8221; by the &#8220;tech&#8221; stuff: you do drive a car or take an airplane without knowing all the techie stuff behind it, do you?</p>
<p>Same with the flipping: the &#8220;tech&#8221; stuff involved in changing the sites from one webhost to another should be the work of the webhost, like flying the plane is the work of the pilot.</p>
<p>Is there a substantial profit&#8230; If I need to make a pilates site like Michelle, it would take me maybe 2 days, without being sure the site looks as good as Michelle&#8217;s. But again, it took a lot of time to learn to drive a car. Same with flipping, experience makes the master or will show you that it is not as profitable for you (yet) than it is for Michelle. </p>
<p>I find getting some experience on the digitalpoint forum where you don&#8217;t need to pay a listing or selling fee like on flippa, gives you the &#8220;playground&#8221; without spending money up front to get a feel about things.</p>
<p>If you never flipped before, then flipping a site is as difficult as flipping a sofa (I assume you never flipped a sofa <img src='http://www.michelle-adams.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>At the end of the day: if you have tried, you will learn to find your profitable cutoff like Donnie says above. And when you find likewise flippers, you can ask and learn from them.</p>
<p>Again: don&#8217;t let the techie part freeze you. The rewarding part is finding something somebody else finds valuable enough for your investment to have a good return that you find profitable enough for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzie</title>
		<link>http://www.michelle-adams.com/flipping-untangled.html/comment-page-1#comment-1034</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michelle.. all great information.. i have often wondered.. as to the labor/work involved in setting up a website.. than flipping..than costs/fees.. is there an actual substantial profit?
also i will assume one need to be fairly fluid with all the &quot;tech&quot; involved...obviously I an not a candidate for site flipping :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michelle.. all great information.. i have often wondered.. as to the labor/work involved in setting up a website.. than flipping..than costs/fees.. is there an actual substantial profit?<br />
also i will assume one need to be fairly fluid with all the &#8220;tech&#8221; involved&#8230;obviously I an not a candidate for site flipping <img src='http://www.michelle-adams.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Pinto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Pinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michelle - 

I&#039;ve developed a niche blog which is generating some decent traffic and is on pg 1 of google for its primary search term. The thing is I&#039;ve a used a licensed plug in for building this blog. The person I sell this blog to needs to buy this plugin as well to fully own the blog - Is this a detriment in any sense - as I need to make two sales pitches in a way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michelle &#8211; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve developed a niche blog which is generating some decent traffic and is on pg 1 of google for its primary search term. The thing is I&#8217;ve a used a licensed plug in for building this blog. The person I sell this blog to needs to buy this plugin as well to fully own the blog &#8211; Is this a detriment in any sense &#8211; as I need to make two sales pitches in a way?</p>
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		<title>By: Donnie@Chattanooga Web Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donnie@Chattanooga Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading your blog for a while. I did give selling on Flippa a go. I think the higher the price tag is on the site, the harder it is gonna be to sell. So, you shouldn&#039;t spend too much time making the blog better and better. Find your profitable cutoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading your blog for a while. I did give selling on Flippa a go. I think the higher the price tag is on the site, the harder it is gonna be to sell. So, you shouldn&#8217;t spend too much time making the blog better and better. Find your profitable cutoff.</p>
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		<title>By: stef</title>
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		<dc:creator>stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kiran

Thanks! Things are going fine hope the same to you.

I see your reasoning, it shows that I&#039;m in real estate renting out and you in real estate developing, and my principle is: once I find a property that&#039;s easy to rent out with good return, I won&#039;t flip it.

That&#039;s why I was wondering: why sell a good site when it can bring good monthly income?

But I see your reasoning and Michelle&#039;s &quot;build in hot markets&quot; where &quot;I am used to build for myself&quot;, which like in real estate doesn&#039;t mean what I like, is what the customer likes.

Anyways, didn&#039;t get the email notifications, so slow in reply. In March will do some real flips with Michelle&#039;s tips from her free ebook :-) 

Sites selling 6times their monthly revenue, which month are we talking about (first month, 13th month?) as a new site obviously hasn&#039;t got traffic that can make income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kiran</p>
<p>Thanks! Things are going fine hope the same to you.</p>
<p>I see your reasoning, it shows that I&#8217;m in real estate renting out and you in real estate developing, and my principle is: once I find a property that&#8217;s easy to rent out with good return, I won&#8217;t flip it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I was wondering: why sell a good site when it can bring good monthly income?</p>
<p>But I see your reasoning and Michelle&#8217;s &#8220;build in hot markets&#8221; where &#8220;I am used to build for myself&#8221;, which like in real estate doesn&#8217;t mean what I like, is what the customer likes.</p>
<p>Anyways, didn&#8217;t get the email notifications, so slow in reply. In March will do some real flips with Michelle&#8217;s tips from her free ebook <img src='http://www.michelle-adams.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Sites selling 6times their monthly revenue, which month are we talking about (first month, 13th month?) as a new site obviously hasn&#8217;t got traffic that can make income.</p>
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		<title>By: Forest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Michelle, sorry for the late jump in here. I read the post on Josh&#039;s and as always it&#039;s excellent.

Flipping really is simple and you are doing a lot to show people this.

I have only flipped one site so far this year as the market does seem a little flooded and slow but it always is around now.... Things should be a lot better next month and the month after so if people start building quality sites now it will be a great time to jump in.

Revenue getting sites as always seem to still be selling like crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michelle, sorry for the late jump in here. I read the post on Josh&#8217;s and as always it&#8217;s excellent.</p>
<p>Flipping really is simple and you are doing a lot to show people this.</p>
<p>I have only flipped one site so far this year as the market does seem a little flooded and slow but it always is around now&#8230;. Things should be a lot better next month and the month after so if people start building quality sites now it will be a great time to jump in.</p>
<p>Revenue getting sites as always seem to still be selling like crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiran</title>
		<link>http://www.michelle-adams.com/flipping-untangled.html/comment-page-1#comment-1018</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stef, how&#039;s it going?

I have a handful of sites I maintain for long term passive income for my business.

The other side to my business is site flipping. This includes selling new sites, as Michelle teaches. And, if I want a bigger return, I will develop the site for around a month, and sell it from around $500 onwards..

Why do I do this you ask? Well...a few reasons... this instant money gives you big buying power to invest back into your business. e.g. Say if the site I sold made me around $100 that month, I&#039;d have to wait 5-6 months for the same return.

Another reason is, I just love to develop a site and sell it, the site flipping model is great, I enjoy it. Maybe it&#039;s because I&#039;m in real estate developing, similar principle :-D

Another reason can also be, that I won&#039;t have the required time to develop a site to its potential, so I&#039;d much rather sell it to someone who can develop it, while I get good cash from the sale to invest back into the business, both win-win.

Currently, it looks like sites are selling 6 times their monthly revenue. You can sell for 10 times, but you may have a little longer wait for the sale.

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stef, how&#8217;s it going?</p>
<p>I have a handful of sites I maintain for long term passive income for my business.</p>
<p>The other side to my business is site flipping. This includes selling new sites, as Michelle teaches. And, if I want a bigger return, I will develop the site for around a month, and sell it from around $500 onwards..</p>
<p>Why do I do this you ask? Well&#8230;a few reasons&#8230; this instant money gives you big buying power to invest back into your business. e.g. Say if the site I sold made me around $100 that month, I&#8217;d have to wait 5-6 months for the same return.</p>
<p>Another reason is, I just love to develop a site and sell it, the site flipping model is great, I enjoy it. Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m in real estate developing, similar principle <img src='http://www.michelle-adams.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Another reason can also be, that I won&#8217;t have the required time to develop a site to its potential, so I&#8217;d much rather sell it to someone who can develop it, while I get good cash from the sale to invest back into the business, both win-win.</p>
<p>Currently, it looks like sites are selling 6 times their monthly revenue. You can sell for 10 times, but you may have a little longer wait for the sale.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your kind comments, Michelle, and thanks for being such a helpful and giving person to me and everyone here who&#039;s asked you questions. 

I appreciate it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your kind comments, Michelle, and thanks for being such a helpful and giving person to me and everyone here who&#8217;s asked you questions. </p>
<p>I appreciate it. <img src='http://www.michelle-adams.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Clinton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, you do a great job of explaining to beginners how to get started with making money online.

It&#039;s a refreshing change from all the scam artists out there peddling myths about quick bucks and &quot;insider secrets&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, you do a great job of explaining to beginners how to get started with making money online.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a refreshing change from all the scam artists out there peddling myths about quick bucks and &#8220;insider secrets&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kiran

Once you make the effort to develop traffic and income to the site, why do you still sell them?

And how is the selling price related to the average monthly income of the last month and the last 4 months?

Any example site you sold you want to share?

Thanks,

Stef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kiran</p>
<p>Once you make the effort to develop traffic and income to the site, why do you still sell them?</p>
<p>And how is the selling price related to the average monthly income of the last month and the last 4 months?</p>
<p>Any example site you sold you want to share?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Stef</p>
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		<title>By: Kiran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,

Regarding the EZA articles... I sold a site, and part of the deal would be was to leave the 10 live articles in my EZA account. It&#039;s not a problem, it helps with your author status, and helps the buyer of your site with the traffic and back links.

Aswell as starter sites, I have also started to develop traffic and income to sites and sell them for even more profits, and article marketing and bookmarking etc will be needed for this. Just keep it all in tact and sell your site as normal.

Everyone wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Regarding the EZA articles&#8230; I sold a site, and part of the deal would be was to leave the 10 live articles in my EZA account. It&#8217;s not a problem, it helps with your author status, and helps the buyer of your site with the traffic and back links.</p>
<p>Aswell as starter sites, I have also started to develop traffic and income to sites and sell them for even more profits, and article marketing and bookmarking etc will be needed for this. Just keep it all in tact and sell your site as normal.</p>
<p>Everyone wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle:  Thanks for the responces! I shows how much you care. 
Back to the site to flip, The site would still retain the links that were produced by EZA or Social Marking or any other means, wouldn&#039;t it?  You just change the Name Server code and everything else stays the same.  Right?
I like the idea Peggy had about giving extra PLR or other articles to the buyer so they can get started to promote the site.  Cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle:  Thanks for the responces! I shows how much you care.<br />
Back to the site to flip, The site would still retain the links that were produced by EZA or Social Marking or any other means, wouldn&#8217;t it?  You just change the Name Server code and everything else stays the same.  Right?<br />
I like the idea Peggy had about giving extra PLR or other articles to the buyer so they can get started to promote the site.  Cool!</p>
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