Selling Websites At Flippa.com

Selling Websites At Flippa.com

Posted on 11. Dec, 2009 by Michelle in Site Flipping

If you’ve been following my blog for a while you might remember the post I published back in late June titled Flipping Out At Flippa.com. In short, that article focused on the move of the SitePoint marketplace to Flippa.com and how users were responding to the change. Well it’s near on six months since then so what better time than now for me to visit the guys at Flippa.com to have a chat.

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Dave Slutzkin General Manager Flippa.com and Luke Moulton Marketing Manager Flippa.com

It was great meeting the guys in person and we managed to discuss a lot of topics but there was one thing in particular I really wanted to put to rest and here was my chance to hear it straight from the source, in person! (Yep I’m lucky I live in Melbourne. :) )

So what was the one thing I was most keen to get answered?

My question was whether or not Flippa were actively trying to move the low end of the market out of their business. The short answer is no. :)

Do they want to do away with sites that are complete junk? The short answer is yes.

What becomes problematic for Flippa is determining what is or isn’t junk. What I believe is junk might not be to the next person. You know that old saying, one man’s trash is another man’s treasure, so it’s a delicate balance for Flippa to be impartial to a degree on what they encourage to appear on their listings page.

I know a lot of people’s perception is that the low end was being forced out due to the high cost of doing business with Flippa. That might be true in a couple of cases such as:

1. You want to offer junk sites that sell for $50 so therefore it’s not worth your trouble due to the fees.

Well I’m sure you would agree that if higher fees results in the number of junk listings being reduced, then great.

Or

2. You are new to the game and everything takes so long to learn,  it’s very difficult to produce sites fast, they don’t sell quickly because your trust rating isn’t established and you generally are flying blind making the whole exercise one that returns a very low hourly rate at the outset.

You perhaps can relate to this second point and yes it can be like that, but everyone has to start somewhere. So why would you start out selling websites at Flippa.com if it’s going to mean your costs are high compared to starting out on a free or very low cost marketplace? In fact Sakana made a comment pointing out the alternative marketplaces on my Fee Squeeze At Flippa post. Here is the comment I left in response to Sakana:

Michelle commented:

As you’ve quite clearly shown, alternative marketplaces are a dime a dozen, each of them with their own set of pros and cons. (I warn anyone considering any of the above sites to give due diligence to assessing the pros and cons/risks of those marketplaces.)

I’ve had great success with the Flippa marketplace and just because I’m vocal about their policies does not mean I suggest walking away from them. They are an industry leader and their impressive results speak for themselves.

Flippa Stats As At Dec 4 2009:

* 1,117 Listings Open Now
* 1,137 Bids Last 7 Days
* $186,770 Sales Last 7 Days
* 40% Listings Sold Last 3 Months
* $28,643,898 Sales Overall

As I’ve mentioned above, I am vocal about Flippa’s policies and in no way consider the marketplace perfect but along with the cons of Flippa there are a great deal of pros. Let’s get the cons out of the way first.

  • The marketplace in its Flippa incarnation is young and with that comes teething problems.
  • In an attempt to quickly improve things decisions are made perhaps without enough forethought and at the end of the day don’t really hit the mark.
  • The business is still finding its feet in terms of how to please a very broad customer base, which in the cold light of day translates to upsetting at least one segment of their user base when they implement certain changes. (Yep, they’ve upset me a time or two.)
  • The constant changes, although often for the better, can be confusing and or difficult to keep up with.
  • The fees eat away a not so tiny percentage of the net profit of a successful listing, in particular when selling at the lower end of the market.

Those points are how I see things and I’m sure there are different pros and cons for different users, I’m only sharing the way I see it.

And the pros?

  • In the last seven days there were 1,195 bids and sales to the value of $178,682. Over the last three months 39% of listings sold and right now there are 1,063 listings open. The overall reported sales volume is $28,828,896. Those are no small figures and if you ever needed social proof that this is one marketplace worthy of transacting in then there it is. (Yeah, I’m not the only one who sells there. ;) )
  • A higher fee structure sees less junk being listed (unfortunately not zero junk ), which in turn gives the marketplace a better name, the probability of a more genuine user base and a thriving marketplace.
  • Although it’s not fool proof, and probably never will be, Flippa are going to great lengths to find ways of making your transactions as safe as possible.
  • Flippa have proven many times over that they are willing to listen to their customers, they are a young and vibrant business who have proven that they are not only flexible but nimble in their attempts to improve things based on customer feedback.
  • And last but not least, you know who you are dealing with! Flippa is a sister company to SitePoint and 99 Designs, two businesses that are far from small.

The last bullet point needs your full attention. Why? Because when you’re considering selling web property you are more likely to focus on the costs of a marketplace rather than who is behind it. You need to know whether you’re dealing with a solid business or a fly by night set up or a marketplace where it’s pretty much a free for all! I haven’t operated in any other marketplace so I cannot confidently give you a run down of the pros and cons of the myriad of sites out there, just be sure you do a lot of research before jumping in to anything.

If you’re serious about buying and selling websites I highly recommend you get familiar with Flippa.com, check out the listings, see what’s selling, see what trends you can find in the marketplace and get to know the business a little. When you jump in I’m sure you’ll love it but remember, not every site sells first time every time so don’t let a few of your unsold auctions scare you away.scared
If you haven’t grabbed my free ebook on setting up basic blogs and selling them on Flippa then go and get your copy now, plenty of others have and they’ve already sold their first sites! You can grab your free copy of Virtual Real Estate QuikCash here.

If you had a chance to talk to Dave and Luke from Flippa in person, what would you want to ask? Let me know in the comments box and I’ll be sure to set up a time to chat to them again and ask on your behalf.

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38 Responses to “Selling Websites At Flippa.com”

  1. TrentNo Gravatar (1 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    I think flippa is great! Yes, there are some things they can improve upon but they are always the first place I go for buying and selling websites. I don’t usually sell cheap sites so the fees aren’t too bad in my opinion but even with that being said I think they should be lower.

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 12th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Good to hear you think Flippa is great too Trent. :) The fee issue is always going to be a bug bear for users, however I’m a big believer in you get what you pay for….gone are my days of false economy. I must write a post on that very subject one day, lol. Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment.

  2. Niche WebsitesNo Gravatar (1 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    About two weeks ago I had the chance to talk with Flippa’s new marketing manager (Luke Moulton) as well. One thing that I can definitely agree with you about is the fact that the team overseeing Flippa is very responsive and interested in what sellers have to say.

    I got the chance to see what is in the works, and even suggest ideas on what could be improved in the marketplace. I really enjoy that the lines of communication are open over at Flippa. So much so that even after I went through the ordeal of several sellers plagiarizing my listings/content, the team over at Flippa stepped in immediately and handled things without a hitch. So, unlike most places that wish to keep their hands out of seller issues, complaints, etc I have to give two thumbs up for Flippa actually seeking to improve the marketplace.

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 12th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    Hey FlippaChick are you in Melbourne too, we should meet up! :)

    I saw your comments on the Flippa blog re the plagiarising issue and I feel for you, I’ve had the exact same thing happen on several occasions. :( Although we’d love to think it’s not going to happen it’s just a reality that some people will do anything to leverage themselves from someone else’s hard work instead of them creating their own unique style. Just as in your case, Flippa addressed it quickly for me and that’s important.

    Great to see you’re giving Flippa two thumbs up. :)

  3. simply stephenNo Gravatar (15 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    Holy c#*$ Michelle,

    Good for you. The get up and go that you have is admirable.

    Two questions.

    1.) What are they going to do about the fees for the low end?
    2.) How did you decide on your interview questions (and what questions did you ask? This would make a good post for people that want to start interviewing.

    Thanks as always. talk soon
    simply stephen

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 12th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Thanks Stephen. I wish I could do more however the time I spend on my business lately is really limited to about three hours a day. With two young children it sure is a challenge but I love it all and those three hours are very productive….they have to be or nothing much gets done.

    Regarding your question (which I’ll be sure to ask Flippa again. ;) ) Flippa are trying to find a balance between making the barrier to entry so low that the marketplace becomes a junk yard and keeping it at a level that allows quality start-up site listings to remain a profitable exercise for the seller. Dave and Luke are very focused on how to strike that balance and although we discussed a couple of ideas I wouldn’t want to publish any of them for fear of starting a viral rumour that is just that, a rumour.

    I personally think the pricing is right; not only myself but other sellers have upped the anti, they haven’t gone elsewhere, they’ve simply offered more quality, worked out ways to become more efficient and put more effort into their auction copy, BIN offers etc. I’ve touched on the backend a little and although not everyone wants to focus there it really is a good way to increase returns and goes hand in hand with being a seller who is genuinely interested in their buyers’ success.

    Regarding the questions; some I asked returned responses that showed Flippa are still determining their strategic direction, therefore a lot of general discussion resulted from that. Knowing the opportunity I had to help mold that direction meant I strayed from my intention of firing specific questions that would have been distracting from the flow of the conversation.

    When I meet up with the guys again I’ll be sure to ask the things you specifically want to know about and publish the questions/answers here. :)

    In terms of offering a post on conducting interviews, I wouldn’t begin to try and advise you on that, it’s not my area of expertise. Just soak up every word that Darren Rowse shares here.

    Thanks for stopping by again, it’s always great to have your input.

  4. LoritaNo Gravatar (1 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    Hi Michelle,

    I’m impressed with your visit to Flippa.com.
    Here’s what I’d like to ask, well more of a suggestion perhaps.

    Would Flippa consider lowering the listing and/or success fees for those sellers who have attained certain number of feedbacks and trust percentages? (As an incentive, of course)

    To me, it doesn’t make sense to “penalise” every seller with the fees when they want to weed out the handful of “junk”.

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 12th, 2009 at 12:43 am

    Thanks Lorita. :)

    I like your thinking regarding a type of incentive based fee system, the challenge will be keeping it simple and fair.

    Believe me, there would be more than a ‘handful of junk’ if the marketplace is too easy to enter. I know that’s not what you’re saying but I think it’s easy for us to underestimate the positive impact that having a higher barrier to entry can have on the marketplace overall and the success of our listings.

    I’ll be sure to pass on your thoughts to the team and publish their answers here in the future.

    Thanks for taking the time to visit and add your ideas.

  5. SakanaNo Gravatar (4 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    Thanks Michelle for reaching out to address our concerns.

    Fees are almost always be a problem. Just look at eBay and its sellers (its a war!). But one should not forget that running a profitable business starts by protecting your assets and in this case customer satisfaction will almost always be the first thing to take care of. Good on Flippa looking after their product and providing a healthy market place for everyone.

    Will be nice to see some fee structure adjustment however.. Say if you list 10 listings you get one free… something like that.

    Michelle…Maybe a podcast next time :o ) ?

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 12th, 2009 at 2:18 am

    You’re welcome Sakana. Nice to see you here again. :)

    Oh yes eBay sure have upset a good chunk of their users, lol! People get used to things and when a company brings in sweeping change it sure does upset people. I guess it’s a timely reminder that if you don’t run your own business and you’re totally at the mercy of someone else’s policies, well you should be ready for some cranky days as you have things pushed onto you that you hadn’t factored into your business model. (I have mentioned building your own list of subscribers to pitch sites too prior to listing haven’t I? ;) )

    Another great idea here about a free listing after 10, I like it and will pass it on! Keep them coming, Flippa are more than happy to listen to your ideas!

    Sure I’ll do a podcast, my digital recorder is always with me and I’m sure Dave and Luke would be happy for you all to hear our Aussie accents. :)

  6. ForestNo Gravatar (21 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    Hey Michelle,

    That’s awesome that you went to their offices.

    They should offer a bulk fee purchase at a cut cost. For repeat sellers like you and I we should be able to buy say 10 regular ($19) listings for $110 or something like that.

    Are you bothered by the prospect of a slow jan/feb or do you think it will be ok this year?

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 12th, 2009 at 3:21 am

    Forest it seems that you and a few others have similar ideas which is great, I really like your repeat seller angle and a discount combined with a bulk buy would be a win win for Flippa and the sellers.

    Regarding the Jan/Feb period, I think it’s inevitable it will slow down at least a little but I’ve done some historical sales analysis and can see some great success from Jan 1st! I suppose it makes it tougher to decide on listing or not given the fees are a little high and no free relist, there is more risk. It really comes down to your own confidence in hitting the mark in terms of the market trends and the packages you offer. I know your sites are awesome so I would think of those that do sell during that time of year yours will be amongst them.

  7. TonessaNo Gravatar (4 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    Hi Michelle,

    I’ve been a lurker as you could say for quite a few of your posts. I’m 19 years old as we speak and I’m just now getting into the domain/website flipping thing. I absolutely love it to be honest…from all that I’ve been doing. With the fee issue, I was at first a bit skeptical about it, but I am a firm believer in that you get what you pay for. I do wish they would just go down on the listing fee price…just a tad bit. $19 may seem cheap to someone but not to someone else. Now if it was just $9…then hey, I wouldn’t have a problem with it at all. So the question is, are they considering on lowering the fees a bit?

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 12th, 2009 at 4:41 am

    Tonessa it’s great to hear from you. :) I’ll be sure to ask your question regarding a reduction in the fees, it seems like everyone wants to know that. ;)

    I guess we need to be careful in what we ask for because the marketplace is still not squeaky clean and reducing fees could actually worsen that problem. A marketplace that gets a name for a lot of junk can quickly become a less profitable one as genuine buyers shy away for fear of being duped. Less customers, particularly genuine customers, could drive down your sell through rates, your costs increase due to repeated re-lists and around it goes, it’s called false economy, which is defined beautifully in this Wiki article.

    Thanks for coming out of the shadows and taking the time to leave a comment.

  8. Eric @ KWFSNo Gravatar (1 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    Hi Michelle, I’m jealous of your visit to the Flippa offices! Looks like fun! I have to say that I agree with the bulk of your post.

    For me, I think Flippa needs to crack down on the misleading and outright scammy listings. For example, I uncovered a HIGHLY misleading listing as detailed in a post on my blog. I submitted a complaint to flippa support, who replied and said they’d look into it. Luke Moulton even tweeted me saying ‘thanks for the headsup we’ll look into it’, but ultimately nothing was done as far as I can tell. The listing remained up and its information was unaltered. Maybe they had a good reason, but it seemed pretty clear cut to me.

    Unfortunately, there are no easy answers. It’s obviously impossible to verify everything that gets posted.

    BTW, I looked hard for other places to find websites for sale, but IMO Flippa is essentially the only place to find good quality sites as far as I can tell.

    One thing I wanted to ask you is: do you know any other blogs like ours? So far I haven’t found a lot in the “website buying and selling for profit” niche.

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 12th, 2009 at 5:41 am

    Eric I understand your frustration in regards to misleading listings but your opinion and my opinion can be different to the next person’s. In fact I had a look at the listing you refer to and to be quite honest, although it does sound highly dubious I would not have taken any action against the seller, the grounds to do so just aren’t there. They are stating revenue and traffic yet not providing up front evidence of it, they are not obligated to. Of course you and I both know that showing proof of revenue and traffic will increase the chance of a sale but it’s not mandatory. As far as the customer feedback, that can’t really be taken into account unless those users open a dispute. I’m sure Flippa have an internal flag on users like this.

    With hundreds of listings a week it just isn’t viable for Flippa to individually review every one of them, so please keep reporting auctions you feel cross the line. Even though there will be occasions where their hands are tied there will be others that are more clear cut and they will happily take action.

    I haven’t really followed any blogs that focus specifically on website buying and selling, but Yaro Starak has some great information that I’ve learned from on his blog.

    Thanks for taking the time to visit and comment.

  9. forestNo Gravatar (21 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    Thanks Michelle for the compliment :) . I have been lucky with my site sales and some awesome buyers along the way but things have been slower on sites for me recently. I normally get a reasonable sale but bids are down and it often comes in at the last minute… Maybe this is buyers getting smart and being more careful before buying.

    I don’t have any flips planned for Jan right now so I may miss most of the month and start back on Flippa near Feb.

    I have so many ideas floating around, so have to work hard on focusing and hopefully 2010 will so me move away from new sites and start building already profitable sites for people to buy.

  10. Ruth - Web Career GirlNo Gravatar (14 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    Michelle great that you spoke to them – and wow there are so many comments here already! Just as a point to add to the last comment by Eric, I also think there are quite a few scammy listings that remain up (I’m sure you remember the one we were dealing with a few months back… nothing seemed to happen about that even though the claims in the listing were blatantly false).

    But regarding the fees I suppose it is true that it does provide a barrier to help prevent more scammy listings. My problem is that they took away value by removing the free private sale. I hope that something will be added to help make up for that, and I’d already been thinking about some kind of bulk discount as has been mentioned above.

    But I have to admit I have made a lot of money at Flippa and I would continue to use it. Yes, I find the fees a bit high, but I’m going to be experimenting with some new website models hopefully starting January.

    I’m glad you replied to Forest above and said you’ve found January doesn’t always have to be slow – though I am planning on taking a bit of a break from it, it’s good to know sales were made then so thanks for sharing your research on that one.

    Anyway thanks for another great post. Just wondering… when are you launching your web flipping course? I can’t wait to give you a glowing testimonial to use for it ;)

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 12th, 2009 at 10:01 am

    Ruth I agree that the complete abolition of the free re-list was not altogether sensible. During my discussion with Dave and Luke I did suggest the idea of creating another location for free re-lists but there were no definite outcomes in that regard. The more I understand the business the more I see how difficult it is to keep everyone happy, but at the very least you can be sure they’re listening.

    I’m so happy to see the success you’ve had and I will be excited to receive your testimonial! I’m close to launching a membership although I couldn’t say it’s a web flipping course, it’s a great deal more than that, you’re going to love it. You guys will be the first to know when the early notification page goes up…..which will be very soon! :)

    As always it’s great to see you here. :)

  11. Ruth - Web Career GirlNo Gravatar (14 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    @ Forest – just saw your new comment. I think I have the same plans as you. I want to take January out as a month to build sites and market them, get them earning a little and flip them I think within a couple of months.

    I find prices have gone down at Flippa. I got a ridiculous request to lower my BIN the other day, after I’d already agreed to give the buyer loads of extras. They claimed they could get great sites for half of what he was even offering me – it really was ridiculous and, though it’s only one buyer, I do think it is representative of how a lot of buyers feel. They are getting smarter and fair enough, so I will try to think of some different site models in the new year.

  12. ForestNo Gravatar (21 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    That’s awesome Ruth,

    I have been meaning to do this for a while. I just started with my first site geared at earning some cash before going to sale but got waylaid due to client work so it stopped…. However it’s been earning a few dollars a day for the last few days so I sent the remaining posts off to a writer and will get back on track with that.

    A $2 a day earning site should convert roughly to a $600 sale… But I have not sold an earning site for so long that i can’t be sure buyers are pricing it like that anymore!

  13. Ruth - Web Career GirlNo Gravatar (14 comments)

    12. Dec, 2009

    I have never sold a site like that so I can’t be sure. But, looking at what does sell on Flippa, sites with small earnings seem to get more interest and bids – whereas the startup sites barely get any bids. But I haven’t done that much research into it, it’s just something I think I noticed.

    And I know what you mean about getting waylaid… it keeps happening to me too!

  14. Luke MoultonNo Gravatar (2 comments)

    13. Dec, 2009

    Great article Michelle, thanks for taking the time to come and see Dave and I. It’s always good to chat one on one with our customers and it’s great to read all the feedback in the comments here.

    We understand that for those selling start-up sites, profits can be a bit tight, but as Michelle mentioned, it’s Flippa’s priority to encourage quality in the markplace. We will of course be considering ways of adding value to our loyal sellers and some of the suggestions here have been good.

    Keep the feedback coming!

  15. MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments)

    13. Dec, 2009

    Thanks for stopping by to leave a comment Luke. It’s great to see that Flippa are keen to know what their customers think and that you’re willing to seriously consider our ideas. :)

  16. ForestNo Gravatar (21 comments)

    13. Dec, 2009

    Oh goodie, Flippa are listening…..

    …. In that case I have another really good suggestion. If our sites don’t sell then Flippa should buy the from us for double our BIN…. What do you guys think of thta ;)

  17. Luke MoultonNo Gravatar (2 comments)

    13. Dec, 2009

    Forest, I’m not sure that that would encourage quality listings on Flippa. ;-)

  18. Brendan WenzelNo Gravatar (1 comments)

    15. Dec, 2009

    Great post with great research on a great topic. I feel that the entire site flipping industry is still young and there will be a lot of development in the near future with more investment. Flippa.com is doing a great job of making you feel secure throughout the buying process, which is a great value. I too look forward to seeing what happens.

  19. MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments)

    15. Dec, 2009

    Glad you liked this post Brendan.

    I agree that site flipping is in its infancy particularly when it comes to the profile it has as a ‘viable’ business model. It will be interesting to watch as it grows in popularity in the future.

    I had a quick look around your blog, you have a lot of interesting content there!

    Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thoughts here. :)

  20. MissyNo Gravatar (1 comments)

    17. Dec, 2009

    Great discussion! As a flipper myself in both the low end and high end category, I think Flippa needs to themselves immerse themselves in the process as Luke recently did.

    Because this will enable them to understand the process better, from listing a site to buying, selling, paying, transferring, etc.

    The more the Flippa guys themselves (directly) know about the buying and selling process, the better marketplace we will all have.

    Keep the Flippa talk coming. Cheers!

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    December 17th, 2009 at 2:52 am

    Thanks for your thoughts Missy. Hope to see you here again. :)

  21. TonessaNo Gravatar (4 comments)

    18. Dec, 2009

    Hi Michelle,

    I came back to tell you thank you very much. I downloaded your ebook the last time I was on here and I actually read it. I think you pretty much saved me for the fact that I basically saw exactly what I was doing wrong. As for the Flippa price thing, I took that thought and determined maybe it is good to pay for a listing…to show that you’re really serious about what you’re doing. I’m currently 19 years old and because I spend most of my time on the computer, I figured why not. I’ve read numerous ebooks, but I have NEVER had a good understanding of it until after I read yours. You were crystal clear on everything and I don’t know how much thanks I could possibly give you. I’m definitely going to take your site link around with me and stick it in my signature on a forum that I’m pretty frequent on. I’m pretty sure a great deal of people would get better use not just from your ebook, but also from this site in general.

  22. MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments)

    19. Dec, 2009

    Tonessa thanks so much for the feedback, it’s wonderful to hear that you feel things are clearer now after reading QuikCash. Very kind of you to take the link around in your sig, I hope plenty of others find just as much value in the content I offer as you do. :)

  23. TonessaNo Gravatar (4 comments)

    19. Dec, 2009

    I’m trying to sign up to your blog but I’m not sure on how to go about doing that (as you can tell my picture’s not showing up so i don’t know how to get that up).

    And your ebook helped me make a sale today…it was $25 but I’m just stoked that I even sold THAT particular site I had. He didn’t even care for the wordpress material…so mainly I made $25 just by selling a domain if you look at it like that. Thank you lots!!!

  24. MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments)

    19. Dec, 2009

    Hi Tonessa, nice work on the sale, were you able to make any profit on that though?

    Not sure what you mean about signing up for my blog? If you mean for your picture to appear next to your comments, you need to set up an avatar at http://en.gravatar.com/.

    Once you’ve done that you simply enter the email address you assign to your gravatar account into the relevant fields when you go to submit a comment on my blog or any other blogs that use the gravatar set up too.

    If you mean the rss feed you can subscribe to that at http://feeds2.feedburner.com/MichelleAdams

  25. TonessaNo Gravatar (4 comments)

    19. Dec, 2009

    Yeah I just meant about the avatar thing lol.
    And actually yes I did make a profit from it…as I had just spent money on the domain name and other things come from the site when I had it (like affiliate advertising, etc.)

  26. MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments)

    19. Dec, 2009

    Ah I c, good that you made some money then! :)

    The avatar/gravatar thing took me a while to figure out too…. now you know. ;)

  27. BuddyNo Gravatar (2 comments)

    04. Jan, 2010

    Hey Michelle,

    Well, after reading through SEVERAL of your posting, I believe you have convinced me to try Flipping again. You still haven’t convinced me to switch to a mac but I will give it another try.

    BTW…I like your site. You’re a much better writer than me!

    Buddy

    MichelleNo Gravatar (232 comments) Reply:
    January 4th, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Hi Buddy, Great to see you here and glad you like what you’ve read. :) I’m sure I’m not necessarily a better writer than you, you’re just being hard on yourself. ;)

    Good to know you’re keen to give flipping a go again and I’m happy to help you. :)

    Now about that Mac….you know you want one you just won’t admit it, lol!